In this episode of Enneagram in Real Life, Stephanie Barron Hall interviews Colton, the creator of the YouTube channel You’ve Got a Type. Colton shares his journey from a strict Evangelical upbringing and military scholarship to exploring theology, acting, and eventually the Enneagram. A Type One with a self-preservation dominant instinct, Colton talks about anxiety, spiritual reconstruction, and how the Enneagram has become a deep tool for self-awareness rather than a surface-level label. He reflects on how he uses the Enneagram in his marriage with a Type Three partner, his creative process in making long-form video content, and the ongoing work of balancing his inner critic with a desire to offer meaningful, grace-filled insights. Throughout, Colton and Stephanie explore the tension between being helpful and being performative, as well as the power of curiosity and compassion in personal and spiritual growth.

On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Brian Lee. Brian is a pastor, coach, and speaker. As a survivor of spiritual abuse and religious trauma, he has spent his time since leaving vocational ministry in 2021 working to provide recovery and resources for fellow victims and survivors. In 2023, he created and founded Broken to Beloved, a nonprofit organization that exists to help other victims and survivors through its Annual Summit and seasonal Cohorts, while also providing trauma awareness and safeguarding practices to pastors, leaders an​​d churches.

A little over 8 years ago, Chris's life underwent a foundation-shaking shift, prompting him to seek new tools, perspectives, and relationships. He was introduced to the Enneagram, engaged in therapy focusing on inner child work, and enlisted a professional coach. Chris discovered a newfound authenticity and resilience, leading to a richer and deeper life. Out of this life-changing journey, Chris feels a clearer call to lead and coach organizations, teams, groups, and individuals toward greater self-awareness, growth, depth, and transformation.

On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Brian Lee. Brian is a pastor, coach, and speaker. As a survivor of spiritual abuse and religious trauma, he has spent his time since leaving vocational ministry in 2021 working to provide recovery and resources for fellow victims and survivors. In 2023, he created and founded Broken to Beloved, a nonprofit organization that exists to help other victims and survivors through its Annual Summit and seasonal Cohorts, while also providing trauma awareness and safeguarding practices to pastors, leaders an​​d churches.

On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Dr. Deborah Threadgill Egerton. She is an Internationally Respected Psychotherapist, Best-selling Author and Unity and Belonging Advocate for the Healing of Humanity. Affectionately referred to as Dr. E, she has attained IEA Certification with Distinction for her groundbreaking utilization of the Enneagram in the realm of bridging historical divides. Her work is dedicated to dismantling marginalization and transcending the divisive practice of "othering".

On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Dani Cooper, a Certified Enneagram Teacher, Coach, and totally-biased cheerleader for individuals, couples, and teams who want to find out who they really are and grow beyond the armor of their Enneagram types. She is the author of the book, The Enneagram for Christian Couples, which came out in 2022. Her life's work is learning how to love herself as a messy, imperfect and absolutely enough human person.

When I think about communication, I think about more than just talking: it’s how we express ourselves (even silence is a form of self-expression), it’s how we connect (or don’t), it’s how we build relationships and cultivate our lives. It’s everything! And this is one of THE most important ways I think we can use the Enneagram. How do you communicate with yourself? (Yes, it’s a thing!) And how do you communicate with others?

If you’ve been curious about using the Enneagram for growth, improving your relationships, and deepening self-awareness, I have good news for you!

On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Liz Goulding, ADAPT Certified Health and Wellness Coach. Liz focuses on the intersection of personal well-being and professional development, working primarily with creative professionals and self-employed individuals who want more energy and capacity to meet life's challenges and opportunities. We discuss navigating day-to-day life, running a coaching business, and experiencing personal growth as a Self-Preservation Type One. I’m particularly excited about this conversation because, fun fact, Liz is my personal coach! 

While Type One is commonly known as “The Perfectionist”, it’s important to note that their main focus isn’t really about being perfect or being the best. “Being good” is much deeper than that, but it’s hard to find and sustain. In this post, I mention Ones repress their anger, and while most Ones do this to some extent, some Ones (the sx subtype in particular) are more comfortable feeling and expressing anger. Also, Ones often wish others knew that when they correct or advise, they genuinely want to help. They’re not trying to be mean.

In relationships, Ones value truth and kindness. They make sure to take care of their loved ones’ practical needs, and they take responsibility for many of the small and large tasks of life. When less healthy, they tend to feel like they are the only adult in the room and can grow resentful of others who don’t take things as seriously. They are focused on self-improvement, and in relationships, they seek to help others flourish as well. They bring sincerity and integrity to their relationships.